Hey All, as you’ve no doubt heard, Google is refusing to comply with China’s censorship policies. This has become a pretty heated political issue; today, Veronica has compiled commentary from Chinese netizens responding to perceived attacks from Google at China. Enjoy -Rand.
Google’s pulling out of China set off China netizens’ concern in a fairly large scale. As many might have been complaining about the strict censorship and the intentional hidden of past political misery, Chinese’s deep rooted nationalism breaks out in front of Google’s – or so called American – scheme to incite anti-China sentiments.
The following post translation comes from one major forum, www.tiexue.net, which is fond of especially by mid-aged men. From this post, you might be able to come to understand Chinese’s views various with sexes or generations.
Google is Against China; Solid Proof Pisses off Netizens and Shocks Central Government
Keyword: 1
First result: 1989 Tiananmen Incident
Keyword: 8
First result: 89’ student unrest
Keyword: 6
First result: June 4th Movement
Keyword: zh
Second result: CCP became extinct
American Google is proved to be anti-china, it must be seriously judged by history.
Chinese netizens should prosecute it to the supreme court, strongly hitting the American spy organization “Google”.
Comments on tiexue.net:
万邦来朝
Google is an American spy organization. Its providing internet service is just a mask. In fact, Google is doing the horrible crimes of anti-china and anti-CCP. It must be punished by law!
mizer
The American government takes advantage of the internet power to control Google, Twitter behind the scenes, tries to overthrow the local government under the banner of democracy and freedom. Google has become the distributing center where people spread anti-china information.
一统四海
It’s an “internet color revolution”. Google has turned out some jackals of American imperialism. Just look at those who bark all around! The so-called free speech is just a damn mask! Free speech means libel, means spread of bad things that poisons people’s mind. It’s adverse to the development of civilization and totally against the moral code!
Riezhi
Google is same as VOA, obviously not just a common business company, but a “cop in plain” supported by government and military.
159385266
He said, she said. It’s so hard to tell the truth! Only seeing is believing!
无极之地
Google is a totally idiot. Why not filter its search results? It should learn from the internal mainstream media, always lead to positive things and go with the stream: Whatever against the government is reactionary; whatever the party wants me to say I’ll say it thousands of times.
LP111
Creep! Google is just a search engine, filtering the results is not its duty! Why you keep on forcing Gooele to filter it? What’s so unpresentable?
Nokia16633
Does Google really love China and Chinese people? No! It just loves our money. It sings loud the anti-china tone under the banner of free speech.
风中之旗
Recently some power is ready to make trouble. Watch out a new wave of anti-china movement!
Zhstone
It’s impossible to block the Internet completely. I don’t believe China government will implement the policy to block the world’s information! As an ordinary internet user, I use Baidu more than Google. And even though Google is a big American company it still can’t challenge the china government, because that violates the principle of running a business company. Google has to obey Chinese law. Just think what will come to a Chinese company in America if it threatens America government because it suffers unfair treatment.
jingsiyisheng
Quit china market quickly! Our political system can never be threatened by a trivial website.
Yase
I’d like to teach you something: Does a government equal to a nation?
If you don’t even know this basic concept, then stop grumbling about these anti-china things! What does “China” mean? It means a nation. And what is a government? It’s just an organization which acts to govern a nation. Of course people have the right to judge this organization’s statecraft! Does fascist prevail on internet now?
信条
Let’s go on using the American-holding Baidu! – -|
sha_li37
It’s so frustrating! I was hoaxed into believing that you really have the proof positive, ha ha.
Baidu used to have the links leading to negative content too, that just the automatic result of search engine spider simulator. Now the related links on Baidu have just been artificially interfered while Google just gives the search result completely according to the simulator. You’re such an idiot to treat this thing without technology content as an anti-china proof.
Rafom
The cause may be various. It’s do possible that some anti-china group is stirring up trouble. But please don’t blindly attack Google only because of its search results.
Tex033
Try Baidu, you will know; Try Google, you will know too much……
armkean
Funny! You think this is the proof of anti-china? No matter right or wrong, those are still big history events, why we have to block them? Are they harmful to be talked about? Is it good to live in the utopia, acting like a cat shuts its eyes when stealing cream? We can’t excessively console ourselves all the time!
蓝色沙丘
Seeing so many internet commentator hired by government, I nearly died Laughing! An ordinary person will never speak like that!
Armkean
Baidu user just can’t understand Google user’s feeling.
Frankly speaking, the scientific research personnel must use Google all the time. Is it right that we emphasize the importance of technology improvement while blaming Google on the same time?
If Baidu is capable of science search then I’ll be ok with the internet blockade.
It’s so funny to see lots of people scolding Google when I finally found among them there is no Google user.
ttt898
If we still block the information in the information age, we’ll only weaken ourselves. It’s harmful for people, country and party.
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Interesting article Veronica, although a more accurate title probably would have been
“Chinese “Middle-aged” Netizens Rage at Google’s “Purposefully Anti-China” Search Results.”
even though not all seem to rage so hard reading through your translations.
It would have been nice as well if some other bbs (different age group) would have been included.
Looking at the original source, its clear that these people are not observing search results but rather the keyword drop-down that appears when you start to type something into the google search bar. I couldn’t duplicate their results on google.cn, but I guess those dropdowns reflect what is commonly searched for.
@Gemme
Thank you for the tips!
@c. mao
Yes, I agree with you on this.
Maybe these people didn’t think that much; maybe they considered Google’s not blocking those searching key words was sin.
Did the CCP or Google change relative to the use of the internet in China? The CCP seemingly has not changed its mission and Google, having been so severely criticized for entering the Chinese market, could not have been ignorant of who ultimately was its principal customer.
Consequently, if China didn’t change and Google was not ignorant; then I am led to believe that Google, consciously or unconsciously, had a hidden agenda to change China. Like the city woman who falls in love with a cowboy, dreaming or hoping that her influence will cause him to nest rather than to roam. Sadly, all too soon, she learns that it is not in the cowboys’ nature to nest. Thus it is with Google, having failed to change the nature of the CCP, perhaps they now want to exit to save as much face as humanly possible.
That’s definitely a possible reason to Google’s actions in this whole fiasco- though, it may perhaps not be the most accurate assumption to factor in cultural ideas of ‘losing face’ to a western company; as, from what has been officially published so far, the decision to leave China was solely decided by Google HQ in the US.
But, who knows- from a Chinese cultural standpoint, your argument is a strong one.
I thought there was a hacker breach into google’s gmail system targeting human rights activists that was traced back tot he chinese government? I havent been following too closely tho; but I thought it was like a “straw that broke the camels back” sort of incident that pushed google HQ to “dont be evil” and totally stop censorship in china.
Right, that was the incident that sparked this whole shpeel of events; although I’m not sure if final investigations did in fact reveal that the attacked did originate from the Chinese gov’t.
Either way- there has been a lot of controversy behind the ‘true reasons and motives’ behind Google’s actions and stance; and one of the arguments that people have been raising is that Google is using this as a publicity stunt/reason to pull out because Google only has a 20%-or-so market share, and is bailing on this market. Though, I don’t fully agree with that argument.
Ya I don’t agree with that either; I’m not sure if a company would bail when they have a 20% market share, and also had the opportunity to sell their phones, and future products to China. It sounds like more of an ethical issue than a financial one.
Definitely; but we’ll see how things are negotiated-
Further talks seem to indicate that Google.cn search will most likely be gone (no updates on Gmail, Gdocs and such), but China has voiced approval of other Google business sectors (is that the correct term? – such as Android) to stay… as long as Google complies to China laws and regulations.
Though- would consumers purchase a ‘Google-less’ Android device?
Definitely no straightforward resolution to ‘Google’ in China it seems.